Subject: Minnie 
                    and Mosko
                  Hello ray.
                    
                    Thanks for everything, man. You are largely responsible for 
                    my group of friends' insane diggin' of cass! (we are pretty 
                    phony, we talk like Zelmo when we talk to girls just for the 
                    fun of it!)
                    
                    I got a question I hoped you could answer.
                    
                    Do you know that scene in Minnie and Moskovitz, in the start, 
                    where Timthoy Carey is at the restaurant with Seymore, and 
                    Timothy goes "I know lots of things! I know lots of things!!!! 
                    I know where my wife is buried!!!!"
                    
                    U know, that scene can kill an entire population, genocide 
                    really, its too much, maybe the high point of cinema! I wondered 
                    if u think Cass wrote that rant from Timmy or if he wrote 
                    it himself? (considering his Greatest Sinner movie and all).
                    
                    Thanks!!!
                  Kristian Andersen
                  Ray Carney 
                    replies:
                   Good 
                    point, but who are you? Well, whatever.... You're right about 
                    the simply amazing Tim Carey. More than half of this scene 
                    was improv'd. At the point you cite, JC had simply scripted: 
                    "My wife died. You didn't know her, did you?" And 
                    Tim took it from there. What a riff. What chops. Blow, man, 
                    blow! Swing, swing, swing..... What a great guy he was. I 
                    miss talking with him.
Good 
                    point, but who are you? Well, whatever.... You're right about 
                    the simply amazing Tim Carey. More than half of this scene 
                    was improv'd. At the point you cite, JC had simply scripted: 
                    "My wife died. You didn't know her, did you?" And 
                    Tim took it from there. What a riff. What chops. Blow, man, 
                    blow! Swing, swing, swing..... What a great guy he was. I 
                    miss talking with him.
                  RC
                  
                  Dear Mr. Carney,
                  Hello, how are 
                    you? My name is Ian MacLeod and I'm an actor/writer/director. 
                    I'm a film grad student at Art
                    Center College of Design in Pasadena, CA. I am a huge fan 
                    of John Cassavetes and have been supremely
                    affected by his work. And aside from his films, you are a 
                    large reason for this enlightenment. I have read several of 
                    your writings including that of "Shadows" and my 
                    favorite being "Cassavetes on Cassavetes." It was 
                    a God-send book and opened my eyes (and I'm sure many other 
                    filmmakers) to the opportunity and lure of what film can be. 
                    The reason I am writing is because I will be moving to NYC 
                    in August to finish some writing, before I shoot my work in 
                    2006. I will be there from August to December and was wondering 
                    if it would be possible to
                    take one of your classes at B.U. I understand the complications 
                    involved in out of state tuition, enrollment, etc., but I 
                    would love to take only one class and that would be one of 
                    your classes. I don't even need to recieve credit, I would 
                    like to even sit in on the class. I am not sure if you are 
                    even teaching a Cassavetes class in the fall, but i wanted 
                    to get in touch with you early to find a way to be in your 
                    class. My desire is to hear the extended thoughts you shared 
                    in the documentary "A Constant Forge." Being as 
                    busy as you are, I completely understand if I do not hear 
                    correspondence quickly, but I am patient and am willing to 
                    wait to hear from you. Whatever the outcome, I want to thank 
                    you for your dedication and commitment to bring the real truth 
                    to one of the greatest American Filmmakers that ever lived.
                  Thank you,
                  R. Ian MacLeod
                  Ray Carney 
                    replies:
                  Ian,
                  Sorry. No Cass 
                    class in your time frame. I would be delighted to have you 
                    attend and participate in discussions since I am sure you 
                    would bring a level of seriousness and intensity that I am 
                    always in quest of, but it just won't work out for your schedule.
                   But 
                    don't feel bad. Of all of the subjects in the world that you 
                    might be interested in studying with me, Cassavetes is the 
                    one that you can most dispense with sitting-in on a class 
                    to learn. Most of my thoughts are in my books. If you have 
                    read them, you really have as much as you need. Of course, 
                    there is always more to say, but that's true of all of life, 
                    all of art. There is always more to say.
But 
                    don't feel bad. Of all of the subjects in the world that you 
                    might be interested in studying with me, Cassavetes is the 
                    one that you can most dispense with sitting-in on a class 
                    to learn. Most of my thoughts are in my books. If you have 
                    read them, you really have as much as you need. Of course, 
                    there is always more to say, but that's true of all of life, 
                    all of art. There is always more to say.
                  But, can I give 
                    you some advice, assuming you'll take it in a friendly vein? 
                    Read the final sentence in my Cass on Cass book. The final 
                    quotation by JC. Translation: Break free from this desire 
                    to "sit at the feet of...." "to study under....." 
                    "to learn from....." anyone, anywhere, about anything. 
                    Make or find your own truth, your own knowledge, your own 
                    insights. It's what's wrong with school and most of America 
                    too. People want to be told what to think or feel. Break free 
                    of that. Work to formulate your own independent reality! Nothing 
                    based on my view or anyone else's. Anything else is courses 
                    with Robert McKee or some other fako pseudo-guru.
                  P.S. (on the web 
                    only): If you want an example, read the crackpot wonderful 
                    letter that precedes this one. That's someone who has done 
                    it, wacky, weird and wild as they may be.
                  All sincere best 
                    wishes.
                  RC
                  
                  Subj: Robert Kramer
                  I work as a researcher 
                    for Michael Vertucci, who teaches various film classes at 
                    the Adult School of the Chathams, Madison & Florham Park 
                    (NJ). The courses are for lay people, but he is meticulous 
                    & thorough in his preparation.
                    
                    He will be conducting a course this fall on certain films 
                    of the 1960's, & is interested (read desperate) to get 
                    a copy of Robert Kramer's "Ice". Would you have 
                    either a copy of this film or a source I could use to locate 
                    it? Your knowledge & resources make you the obvious & 
                    only (& last) avenue I can pursue.
                    
                    Any help to a fellow graduate of Rutgers (NCAS '68) would 
                    be appreciated.
                    
                    Sincerely,
                    
                    Lynn Lawlor
                   Ray Carney 
                    replies:
                  If 
                    it's not currently available from one of the standard New 
                    York releasers, I don't know what to tell you. Sorry. Robert 
                    Kramer was a good friend and eight or nine years ago I persuaded 
                    the same video company to release his work that I had earlier 
                    persuaded to release Mark Rappaport's. VideoActive was the 
                    name of the company. It was founded by two friends, Mike Lamb 
                    and Maya Smuckler. I put them in touch with Robert and put 
                    Robert in touch with them. Meetings were held. I did what 
                    I could to make it happen. I offered to write program notes 
                    or do a voice over commentary. But they lost their shirt on 
                    Rappaport and went under before the Kramer project was issued. 
                    So that was the end of the story. I tell it as a cautionary 
                    tale to my students about the dangers of being an idealist. 
                    And keep in mind it's not just Ice we are lacking. 
                    There are also Starting Place, the astonishing Route 
                    One, Milestones, and many others. Just another 
                    example of what America cares about (and what it doesn't). 
                    Commerce being in the former category, and art being in the 
                    latter. Sorry I can't be of more help.
                  RC
                  P.S. 
                    An afterthought: I am assuming you have already tried Filmmaker's 
                    Cooperative, Kino, and all of the other usual art film distributors. 
                    I clearly remember that Filmmaker's Co-op used to have Ice 
                    and Kino used to have Starting Place/Point de depart. 
                    I forget who used to have Route One and Milestones, 
                    but rented both of them in both 16 and 35mm a number of times 
                    from someone in New York City. So try those places if you 
                    haven't. I was just assuming that in my reply. Don't hold 
                    your breath for the videos though.
                  
                  Dear RC:
                  I was reading the 
                    letter you received from Daniel Duque-Estrada recently. Just 
                    a few thoughts to share with you in response to his questions.
                  Artist: a person 
                    whose creative work shows sensitivity and imagination
                  Does a person's 
                    creative work show sensitivity and imagination? Does it come 
                    from who they uniquely are? If so, that person is an artist 
                    whether he is successful commercially or not. One can view 
                    oneself as an artist without making a dime from it. And enjoy 
                    the creation of it just f! or the joy of creating. If someone 
                    is an artist in their soul, they cannot NOT create!
                    
                    I met a woman in Milwaukee the other day who was 88 years 
                    old and used to create "displays" in her youth in 
                    the Playboy Club in Chicago (she was attractive enough to 
                    be a bunny, but waitressing was boring to her). She flashed 
                    a huge grin and said, "I used to be quite a looker but 
                    I'm UGLY now!!!" But her face lit up, her eyes twinkled 
                    and she was beautiful when she talked about her art. She doesn't 
                    paint mu! ch anymore, but a few years ago made a mural of 
                    a sunset out of carpet fibers - and got $30,000 for it! I 
                    believe that you can never take the artist out of the artist. 
                    Whether you get paid for it - or not - or make a living from 
                    it - or not - is another matter. If you are in the mood to 
                    create, create! Every artist is I know does it for their own 
                    satisfaction... including me! : )
                    
                    Be and do what you are... what you love... and don't wait 
                    for someone else to validate it. Claim it and be proud of 
                    it! To be or not to be... are you or aren't you? Those are 
                    the questions.
                    
                    MJ
                  Ray Carney 
                    replies:
                  Thanks for the 
                    soulful meditation. I agree with everything you say. I know 
                    people who play the church organ for the choir who could have 
                    been composers in another era. I know of people who tend their 
                    gardens who could have been landscape architects. I know of 
                    people who cook or fix up their house who could have been 
                    great interior designers. We find the ways we can. We make 
                    art in the ways that are available to us. We do what we can 
                    with what we can. The impulse will find a way out no matter 
                    how or where or what form it takes. The artist cannot be suppressed. 
                    Art will find a way. And anyone who complains about not having 
                    enough money to be an artist, or not having the support, or 
                    not having the equipment, is not an artist, but a businessman, 
                    a bureaucrat, an organization man. If we are orginal, nothing 
                    can stop us from being original. If we have the ideal of freedom, 
                    nothing can stop us from being free.
                  RC
                  
                  Re: ... Wondering 
                    about Cassavetes
                  Dear Professor 
                    Carney,
                  Into the filming 
                    ... feelings, feelings, feelings just sometimes overwhelm 
                    all of us ... pure professionalism is the death of involvement 
                    ... I don't know how long this film is going to be ... I don't 
                    know where this film is going ... I'm
                    just trying to keep going ... I'm extremely bullheaded and 
                    stupid ... I'm crossing lines I never thought I would ... 
                    It's so difficult to balance to achieve that what the mind 
                    can accept the heart can take and the soul can live with ... 
                    Thank God the actors are slowly getting it ... been thrown 
                    a curve, after June 20th, we'll be down to Fridays and the 
                    weekends. That's all one of my primary actors can give me 
                    till she leaves the country for a new chapter in
                    her life in September ... Perhaps it's for the best ... John 
                    said that limitations were part of the process ... This film 
                    might go all the way up to the airport departure area ... 
                    
                  I wonder what John 
                    would be doing if he were alive? I know it's so forward of 
                    me. Calling him by his first name. I never even knew the man. 
                    But I just feel so close to him for some reason. Maybe I'm 
                    just romanticizing ... 
                  ... I wish he were 
                    alive ... With the way technology has changed budgets, he'd 
                    be making films like mad I bet ... Oh I pity the actors. All 
                    the more I have respect for the actors. It's a damn difficult 
                    and potentially humiliating job
                    that they have to do. But they do it nonetheless, and when 
                    they're open, just open, it's AMAZING and HUMBLING to behold. 
                    My God, what incredible things you've created! Emotions, thoughts, 
                    souls, energies!
                  ... I wish he were 
                    alive ... That story about 52 takes on simultaneous film cameras 
                    running for FACES would be nothing. He'd probably finish each 
                    1 hour mini DV tape every take. His raw output would be monstrous. 
                    He'd probably be filming nearly forever. He'd be editing forever 
                    ... 
                   ... I wish he 
                    were alive ... Would they listen? Would they be listening 
                    to him as some of them so hypocritically do now? Or would 
                    they still treat him as such as before? ...
                   ... I wish he 
                    were alive ... Maybe the changes, some of them, would come 
                    ... for the better ...
                   ... But he's not 
                    alive. I know. We learn from him. We move on. We continue. 
                    We remember.
                   Stay true,
                  JP
                  Ray Carney 
                    replies:
                  Thanks for the report. Keep going. You are doing the impossible but only you can do it. Keep going. Don't give up. Don't let yourself stop or quit. Keep going. Only you can do it and only you can prevent yourself from doing it. Keep going. It matters. Keep going.
                  RC
                  
                  Subject: The Real 
                    independent Movement - Beyond the Hype Book
                  Dear Ray,
                  Just to say how 
                    have enjoyed your writings, and i guess i'm the 1.2 zillionth 
                    person to ask, when do intend to publish your latest book 
                    "beyond the hype"
                  Look forward to 
                    your reply
                  Best Wishes
                  Jason Brooks
                  Ray Carney 
                    replies:
                  Jason,
                  Thanks. 
                    But, at last count, you're not the 1.2 zillionth person, you're 
                    the 2.1 zillionth! See my reply on page 22 of the Mailbag 
                    letter pages.
                  Cheers,
                  RC
                  
                  Subject: The Tango 
                    Lesson
                  Hi Professor Carney,
                    
                    Miss class? How are you enjoying your time off? I recently 
                    caught Sally Potter's "The Tango Lesson" on the 
                    Independent Film Channel and I needed to tell you about it.
                    
                    By its summary, I assumed it would star two beautiful spanish 
                    dancers: a more artistic "Dirty Dancing." Part documentary, 
                    Sally Potter is a struggling filmmaker, trying to make a film 
                    on Pablo Peron, an up-in-coming tango dancer. He is charismatic, 
                    handsome, and graceful; she is insecure and uncertain. It 
                    seems an unlikely romance. Thankfully, the romance was not 
                    the focus of the film, because I would have changed the channel. 
                    Somehow, these mismatched artists flowed together when tango 
                    music played. In her dance lessons, he teaches her to loosen 
                    up and stop thinking. He says that tango is about feeling 
                    the music and letting the body move as it pleases. But Potter 
                    is too preoccupied with precision and form, and Pablo becomes 
                    frustrated. Throughout the film and their tumultuous relationship, 
                    the couple's tango becomes more about power shifts and defense 
                    levels. Who leads, who doesn't want to follow, how can't seem 
                    to feel the music, who is overwhelmed by the music.
                    
                    Five days later, there are two scenes that still stay with 
                    me. First: Pablo grows more and more frustrated with Sally. 
                    She can't dance in the moment, she is too frigid. He criticizes 
                    her for her voyeurism and her obsession with filmmaking. They 
                    sit next to each other, in a dressing room, looking at each 
                    other through a mirror. Then, the camera pans left, from the 
                    couple in the mirror to the real couple. So great!
                    
                    Then in another scene, Pablo, Sally, and two other choreographers 
                    are exhausted and frustrated from an unsuccessful rehearsal. 
                    Sally decisively stands and pleads for one more exercise. 
                    For the first time, she isn't afraid to really direct and 
                    she orchestrates the three in a tango. Then, she leads them 
                    through the doors of the small rehearsal, dark space into 
                    an enormous hall with luminous windows and marble pillars. 
                    She joins the three in a four-way tango, unexpectedly gorgeous 
                    and graceful. I felt that break-through. She was in control: 
                    she was creating something beautiful for her film and filling 
                    her role as a director. Yet, she was out of control, out of 
                    her body. She stopped thinking. She trusted her body to move 
                    with the other three. She was no longer preoccupied or conscientious 
                    of form. She let go. The camera follows her as she flies in 
                    and out of frame, hiding behind the marble pillars. It's breathtaking.
                    
                    So, I am sure you have heard of the director, Sally Potter. 
                    I think she made a pretty well-known film called "Orlando," 
                    although I know nothing about it. Especially with your love 
                    of dance, I think you will like it. Anyways, I just wanted 
                    to keep in touch. I hope you are enjoying your time off! Speak 
                    to you soon.
                    
                    Julie
                  Ray Carney 
                    replies:
                  Julie,
                  Sorry 
                    to take so long to reply to your kind and thoughtful email 
                    about Sally Potter. Yes, I know her work, but confess ignorance 
                    of that film in particular.
                  Glad 
                    you're watching "the good stuff" and not American 
                    Idol, The Bachelor, or the equivalent: 20/20, Dateline, and 
                    all the rest! : ) I don't even know if those shows are still 
                    on now. I'm so behind the curve. Got a letter the other day 
                    from a young producer on Extreme Makeover saying how much 
                    my writing meant to him---probably as an alternative to his 
                    awful job on that awful show. I'm glad to be an antidote to 
                    the poison the system squirts into the world.
                   I've 
                    been travelling a little. Doing research in Ohio and in NYC. 
                    And writing a lot. That always feels good. Like deep diving 
                    to find my soul, remind me I have one, I mean. So much of 
                    the world seems devoted to taking it away. The great evil 
                    of our time is distraction: to take our attention and divide 
                    it up into a thousand different pieces. The focus on writing 
                    is my personal antidote, my alternative way of being.
I've 
                    been travelling a little. Doing research in Ohio and in NYC. 
                    And writing a lot. That always feels good. Like deep diving 
                    to find my soul, remind me I have one, I mean. So much of 
                    the world seems devoted to taking it away. The great evil 
                    of our time is distraction: to take our attention and divide 
                    it up into a thousand different pieces. The focus on writing 
                    is my personal antidote, my alternative way of being.
                  Stay 
                    well and keep watching good films. But don't forget about 
                    good composers and writers too. Alice Munro is one of my favorites 
                    for the past few years. Her "Dance of the Happy Shades" 
                    is an ideal place to start if you haven't given her a try 
                    before. The stories are very very short and some are very, 
                    very beautiful. (Try the title story or "Walker Brothers 
                    Cowboy," or "Images," or "Postcards" 
                    for starters.)
                  And, 
                    in the category of non-fiction, if you're interested, I'd 
                    recommend: Noam Chomsky, Neil Postman, Ben Bagdikian, Todd 
                    Gitlin, Robert W. McChesney and Danny Schechter on the media. 
                    Very, very smart, all of them. They explain why television 
                    puts on shows with idiots like Donald Trump or Martha Stewart. 
                    And why shows like The Bachelor and Extreme Makeover and Dateline 
                    and 20/20 and all of the other pieces of stupidity on TV exist. 
                    And why there aren't more films like the kind Sally Potter 
                    makes. Or more news broadcasts that actually ask you to think 
                    or learn anything.
                  But 
                    enough of the sermon!!!! Have a great summer!
                  RC
                  
                  Mr. Carney,
                  I appreciate you 
                    getting back to me. I completely understand that you're too 
                    busy to read the scripts. Absolutely no problem.
                  I just want to 
                    let you know I've been going into Mugar here and there when 
                    I get a free day to check out some of the films you have on 
                    reserve there - Elaine May, Su Friedrich, Carl Dreyer etc. 
                    It's a goldmine. Those films are so hard to get anywhere else.
                  Speaking of Dreyer, 
                    below is a brief note I posted about "The Passion of 
                    Joan of Arc" on some Internet Dreyer forum. I must admit 
                    I have not yet read your Dreyer book (I'm really just getting 
                    into the filmmaker now) so I don't know if my response has 
                    been said already, but I still figured you might be interested 
                    in reading it.
                  Thanks again for 
                    getting back to me,
                  Matt 
                  Dreyer note:
                  I was watching 
                    part of Joan of Arc for a second time and I noticed something 
                    else very interesting.
                  During the trial, 
                    we see the judges and priests and theologians talking amongst 
                    themselves for several moments before one of them actually 
                    builds up enough confidence to place a given question "on 
                    the record" (i.e. what everyone in the court hears, as 
                    well as what we, as viewers, see as intertitles). We can tell, 
                    just by looking at their facial expressions and gestures, 
                    that there is much doubt and insecurity within ther minds, 
                    yet they keep these feelings repressed and off the court record 
                    in fear of contradicting themsleves and (more importantly) 
                    looking like fools for doing so.
                  In effect, everything 
                    that goes "on the record" in the courtroom has been 
                    sent through a sort of filtration system - a network of minds. 
                    This means nothing that actually goes on the record is very 
                    real. Instead of being a fresh question born from the mind 
                    of an individual, it is a politically and theologically safe 
                    question born from a collective mentality.
                  So what goes on 
                    record as the reality of what happened during the Joan of 
                    Arc trial is fitered and, thus, false. And seeing that the 
                    court's record is what will be referred to for centuries later 
                    as being the "reality" of the courtroom proceedings, 
                    all future historical perception of the trial will unavoidably 
                    be distorted.
                  This man-made molding 
                    of reality that we see at Joan's trial is, to me, a microcosm 
                    of what goes on in the world in general. It is very rare that 
                    our freshest thoughts and our freshest emotions find their 
                    way out of our minds and onto the record, so to speak. Before 
                    we say something in a public forum or write something in a 
                    newspaper or film something for a general audience, we filter 
                    our feelings through a sort of inner checks and balances system, 
                    making sure everything we say is safe, or, to use a more contemporary 
                    term, politically correct. In consequence, the history of 
                    our world, of our culture and of ourselves becomes an illusion. 
                    True reality rarely makes it into the history books. 
                  Along with playing 
                    it safe, we also make a conscious effort to create a reality 
                    that is free of doubt, preferring a state of existence composed 
                    of objective truths and absolutes. But, as we can learn from 
                    Dreyer's film, a reality like this is hell; it is a prison 
                    to our souls that want nothing more than to express feelings, 
                    no matter how incomaptible these feelings may be with what 
                    absolutist society defines as "normal."
                  One possible lesson? 
                    Only when we get our unfiltered feelings and emotions "on 
                    the record" and learn to embrace doubt (instead of avoiding 
                    it) can we free ourselves from this 'prison' we have created 
                    for ourselves.
                  Ray Carney 
                    replies: 
                  I 
                    love your Dreyer point. So true. We live in an artificial 
                    world of man-made truths (falsities) but can't see them because 
                    they are everywhere and everyone mouths them and frowns if 
                    we say anything that is not in the script. See my recommendations 
                    to Julie in a letter above this one about reading Noam Chomsky, 
                    Neil Postman, Ben Bagdikian, Todd Gitlin, Robert W. McChesney 
                    and Danny Schechter. They all talk about the "filtration 
                    system." The more you watch (or listen) the less you 
                    know, as Jackson Browne put it.
                  RC